{"id":56998,"date":"2023-04-04T12:06:53","date_gmt":"2023-04-04T10:06:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.veldeke.net\/?p=56998"},"modified":"2023-04-04T12:06:53","modified_gmt":"2023-04-04T10:06:53","slug":"ich-sjtoot-mich","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.veldeke.net\/lb\/ich-sjtoot-mich\/","title":{"rendered":"Ich sjtoot mich&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-56995\" src=\"https:\/\/www.veldeke.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/Breve-oet-Oostalie-14.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"413\" height=\"324\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.veldeke.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/Breve-oet-Oostalie-14.jpg 413w, https:\/\/www.veldeke.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/Breve-oet-Oostalie-14-300x235.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 413px) 100vw, 413px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Column van Wim kuipers *<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u2019t Zit mich neet mit dit jaor. Weer ins vazel gesjlaopet. En efkes later \u00a0verrasde mich Het Parool mit ein artikel mit de kop: Is het &#8216;groter dan&#8217; of &#8216;groter als&#8217;? H\u00f6bbe die luuj in de Rampsjtad gein anger probleme? \u2019t Sjt\u00f6kske is neet mier es eine babbel mit, ich citeer: <em>\u2018taalwetenschapper Marten van der Meulen, die rond de 80.000 adviezen over tien grammaticale hete hangijzers bestudeerde.\u2019 <\/em>Z\u00f3l det, 8000 advieze per kwestie? Advieze\u2026<\/p>\n<h3>Groter als zoervleis<\/h3>\n<p>Allei. De weitesjapper meint: <em>\u2018We weten dat \u2018groter als\u2019 vaak gekoppeld is aan mensen met een lager opleidingsniveau.\u2019 <\/em>Kan good, mae waat is d\u00f6k (vaak), en waat haet opleidingsniveau daomit vandoon? Is ein opleiding in de communicatiewetenschappen hoger es (oei) sjei- of wiskunde? Eine natuurkundige zeuk nao bewieze, en dem zal \u2018t zoervleis zien waat w\u00e4\u00f6rd en oetsjpraoke GOOD zien, volges \u2013 ja waat, de NOS? NRC?<\/p>\n<p>B\u00f6n ich te volge? Ich mein: miense die \u2019t minder van bewieze, maete en siefers m\u00f3tte h\u00f6bbe veur hogerop te k\u00f3mme, det waere dinkelik danners. Daomit kump me wiejer in de werreld, meine ze. Sjrienewirkers, metseleers, boewvakkers, die h\u00f6bbe dao nieks aan. Is hiej noe get mit aangetuind?<\/p>\n<h3>Randjsjtads gesnope<\/h3>\n<p>Gein idee. Ei bietje achtergr\u00f3ndj daoveur euver det \u2018als\u2019. Seer \u2019t begin van de kwestie woor \u2019t sjlaagveldj: groter als waerde gezag in gans Nederlandstalig Belsj (mit oetzunjering van deile van West-Vlaanderen, wo me groter of zaet), Braobantj en biejnao gans Limburg. Me zaet det me in \u2019t naorde van oos Limburg mier dan heurt. Dudelik: de foeifoeivinger van Numwaege. Maak ich noe geine b\u00f3mmewerper van ein sjietvleeg?\u00a0Nae \u2013 ich wil dit (mesjiens) oetmilke es (de) minachting van alles waat neet des Randjsjtads is. Gesnopet?<\/p>\n<p>Zjuus, mae ich hauw wille naodinke euver vapen-vapete-gevapet. Det haet nieks opgeleverd. Ich vroog mich aaf woveur det wirkwaord op zich Ingels verveug m\u00f3t waere. K\u00f3s nieks bedinke. Amen: ich gebroek det waord neet. Belangrieker vinj ich woveur de gezet gevaped neet vertaalde. Aansjtandj?<\/p>\n<h3>Opruime dee hap<\/h3>\n<p>Mae noe dit. Eine sjournalis (hel Z, van de son in de see) dae meistes netjes aanguf van waem hae zien meininge haet (ummer Ammies), dae citeerde getraoje Mesjtreechtenere. Hae hauw \u2019t euver \u2018t aafbraeke van bao alles van de miene. En biej de ENCI geit det mesjiens neet angers, sjoewt hae, umdet de geweun luuj dao nieks van m\u00f3tte h\u00f6bbe. Ich citeer: <em>\u2018weg mit det aaijd iezer, opruime dee hap (weg met dat oud ijzer, opruimen die hap).&#8217; <\/em>Sjitterend Mesjtreechs waord, det hap, mae woveur die vertaling in \u2018t AN? Meine ze noe w\u00f6rkelik biej de gezet det Hollesje laezers die zin neet vapen? Of m\u00f3tte veer sjtols zien det Oos Taal zoev\u00e4\u00f6l aafwiek, versjillend is van \u2019t Nederlandjs, det det vertaald m\u00f3s waere?<\/p>\n<h3>Deltaplan voor taalonderwijs **<\/h3>\n<p>Waat is aan de handj in taallandj? Nou ja, zuug wie prof. dr. Peter-Arno Coppen zien taalrebriek in Trouw vurge waek vriedig beg\u00f3s: <em>\u2018Het is nu dan toch wetenschappelijk aangetoond: het gaat wel degelijk bergafwaarts met het Nederlands.\u2019 <\/em>Oei. Mae d\u2019r z\u00f3l ei <em>\u2018Deltaplan voor het taalonderwijs\u2019<\/em> k\u00f3mme, zag hae. De elenj bliek zoe groot det de ierste maotregele \u2018deze zaterdag\u2018 al aangebaoje z\u00f3lle waere. Persies baove de column sjting: vrijdag 31 maart 2023. Eindredactie zat det sjt\u00f6kske get vreug in de gezet\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Allei, einen hooglieraar taalkunde hoof neet d\u2019n humor van Kees van Kooten te h\u00f6bbe. Mae de elenj h\u00f6b ich good meine te zeen: <em>\u2018Het aantal vuistregels en ezelsbruggetjes is (\u2026) alleen maar toegenomen, vooral in het onderwijs, dat daar nu geheel mee dreigt dicht te slibben.\u2019 <\/em>Dudelik? Efkes dan nag nao d\u2019n hier v. Kooten. Persies naeve de passaasj van de aezelsbr\u00f6kskes sjteit, in de tv-rebriek: <em>\u2018We gaan eraan, doemdacht ik. Iedere kans aanpakkend om ook die Koot- en Bieaanse taalvondst in ere te houden.\u2019<\/em><\/p>\n<h3>Doemdinke<\/h3>\n<p>Doemdacht: woveur doemdenken ouch es wirkwaord te zeen? Ach, KenB z\u00f3lle det mesjiens \u2026, dao sjoot mich get te binne. Nuuj Limburgs waord: doemdinke \u2013 \u00a0mit lang OE, vertaald dus <strong>\u2018duimdenken\u2019<\/strong>. Ich verklaor det veurluipig zoe: \u00a0gauw ein oplossing of antjwaord verzinne det neet gelaoge is. Oet d\u2019n doem gezoek.\u00a0Jaja, ich b\u00f6n gluif ich de waeg kwiet. Boew aan mien herinneringslandjsjap van Oos Taal en transjel dan door Amsterdam, Den Haag en Numwaege. Waat wil ich? Knotere?<\/p>\n<h3>Ich sjtoot mich<\/h3>\n<p>Biejgegaeve: ich sjtoot mich aan luuj die bewaere det luuj die neet \u2019t Hollesj Nederlands sjrieve of sjpraeke, det die achterlik d\u00f3m zien, of minstes vaute make. Ich sjtoot mich aan luuj die leeggeletterdheid koppele aan de opleiding. Ich sjtoot mich aan luuj die \u2019t sjpraeke van dialek leeggeletterd neume. Die \u2018dialek\u2019 sjrieve wen ze \u2018Limburgs\u2019 bedoele. (Bedoele ze det dan? K\u00f3m noe).<\/p>\n<p>Sjtoot mich aan luuj die constructies sjrieve wie <em>dat er misschien gaat worden onderhandeld<\/em>. Why woveur? \u2019t Deilwaord onderhandeld m\u00f3t volges v\u00e4\u00f6l vreigeliers achteraan in de biejzin sjtaon, angers z\u00f3l \u2019t Limburgs (of Drents) zien en dus vaut (vreugere houfriddakt\u00e4\u00f6r De Limburger). <em>\u2018Enne, wie sjrikkelik is det?\u2019<\/em>, vaap emes achter miene r\u00f6k. Tja. Waem m\u00f3t ich det vraoge? Dae man v\u00e9\u00far miene r\u00f6k. B\u00f6n ich det zelf?<\/p>\n<p>Ao ja: euver \u2019t Deltaplan, de voesregels en aezelsbr\u00f6kskes die wie de Japanse doezjendknoup de sjole binne z\u00f3lle kroepe, heurde veer nieks mie. Ich haoj \u2019t in de gater.<\/p>\n<p><em>* Wim Kuipers reageert op van alles wat hij over Oos Taal (het Limburgs) tegenkomt in de media.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>** Het &#8220;Deltaplan voor het taalonderwijs&#8221; bleek bij nader inzien een 1 april grap, die door heel wat Trouw lezers voor waar werd aangezien.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Column van Wim kuipers * \u2019t Zit mich neet mit dit jaor. Weer ins vazel gesjlaopet. En efkes later \u00a0verrasde mich Het Parool mit ein artikel mit de kop: Is het &#8216;groter dan&#8217; of &#8216;groter als&#8217;? 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